Comments on: Naming a new species is tricky business http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/ All the news on the Earth's largest environment. Tue, 22 May 2012 14:59:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ugly Animals http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/comment-page-1/#comment-60848 Ugly Animals Mon, 17 Jan 2011 04:18:42 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1666#comment-60848 I would have named it as "Sea Noodles Queen" Lol I would have named it as “Sea Noodles Queen” Lol

]]> By: Carnival of the Blue #21 « The Oyster’s Garter http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/comment-page-1/#comment-5078 Carnival of the Blue #21 « The Oyster’s Garter Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:23:21 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1666#comment-5078 [...] Etnoyer found a new coral! Yippee! He gets science laurels. But naming Isidella tentaculum Caused an anxiety [...] [...] Etnoyer found a new coral! Yippee! He gets science laurels. But naming Isidella tentaculum Caused an anxiety [...]

]]> By: Peter http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/comment-page-1/#comment-4993 Peter Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:03:32 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1666#comment-4993 Identifying the Bird, When Not Much Bird Is Left http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/science/25birds.html?ref=us Interesting NY Times story on one real-world application of taxonomy. Identifying the Bird, When Not Much Bird Is Left
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/science/25birds.html?ref=us

Interesting NY Times story on one real-world application of taxonomy.

]]> By: Peter http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/comment-page-1/#comment-4991 Peter Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:57:13 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1666#comment-4991 TAMU-CC is not a big school, but there's at least one three credit class in Systematics, focusing on the fishes. I agree with Kevin it depends on the faculty. Here, the faculty are supportive, hiring post-docs interested in taxonomy, purchasing equipment like SEMs, and developing molecular techniques to discern species. However, species descriptions will not be part of one's dissertation. That's verboten. All species descriptions are independent of thesis work because a species published in a dissertation, but not then in the literature, could result in nomen nudem. TAMU-CC is not a big school, but there’s at least one three credit class in Systematics, focusing on the fishes. I agree with Kevin it depends on the faculty. Here, the faculty are supportive, hiring post-docs interested in taxonomy, purchasing equipment like SEMs, and developing molecular techniques to discern species. However, species descriptions will not be part of one’s dissertation. That’s verboten. All species descriptions are independent of thesis work because a species published in a dissertation, but not then in the literature, could result in nomen nudem.

]]> By: Kevin Zelnio http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/comment-page-1/#comment-4989 Kevin Zelnio Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:02:30 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1666#comment-4989 At UC-Davis, there was an interest in systematics. Courses in Invertebrate Zoology, Ichthyology, Mammology, Entomology, Nematology, Ornithology and Herpetology. I took a senior level class in Systematics. Of course the plant people had their classes as well. At Penn State, nothing. There was a seminar/discussion course in systematics, but it was always one lab and 2-3 students. They always read fish papers and it felt more like their lab meeting, so i stopped going. Entomology has a course but they sometimes can't find a faculty member or grad student to teach it. The interest has to start with the department and faculty. If they are into the students will be. I had a butterfly taxonomist/ecologist teach my Systematics course at UC-Davis. We made phylogenetic tress from "morphological" comparisons of hardware using the different philosophies of tree-building. It was brilliant and we had so much fun! At UC-Davis, there was an interest in systematics. Courses in Invertebrate Zoology, Ichthyology, Mammology, Entomology, Nematology, Ornithology and Herpetology. I took a senior level class in Systematics. Of course the plant people had their classes as well.

At Penn State, nothing. There was a seminar/discussion course in systematics, but it was always one lab and 2-3 students. They always read fish papers and it felt more like their lab meeting, so i stopped going. Entomology has a course but they sometimes can’t find a faculty member or grad student to teach it.

The interest has to start with the department and faculty. If they are into the students will be. I had a butterfly taxonomist/ecologist teach my Systematics course at UC-Davis. We made phylogenetic tress from “morphological” comparisons of hardware using the different philosophies of tree-building. It was brilliant and we had so much fun!

]]> By: Eric http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/comment-page-1/#comment-4986 Eric Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:50:34 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1666#comment-4986 Fix?? I don't see much push at my undergrad program to generate interest... Fix??
I don’t see much push at my undergrad program to generate interest…

]]> By: Kevin Zelnio http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/comment-page-1/#comment-4968 Kevin Zelnio Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:07:57 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1666#comment-4968 Taxonomy is very well and alive! I have 5 species descriptions coming out in the next couple months. More about that when they are published. It unfortunate though that many consider taxonomy a lost art. We are generating unprecedented amounts of biodiversity data. Taxonomy is severely understaffed and underfunded. The backlog of specimens is so great I've had researchers turn down samples because they just don't have the time and money to get to any more new stuff. Taxonomy is very well and alive! I have 5 species descriptions coming out in the next couple months. More about that when they are published.

It unfortunate though that many consider taxonomy a lost art. We are generating unprecedented amounts of biodiversity data. Taxonomy is severely understaffed and underfunded. The backlog of specimens is so great I’ve had researchers turn down samples because they just don’t have the time and money to get to any more new stuff.

]]> By: Peter http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/comment-page-1/#comment-4951 Peter Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:21:15 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1666#comment-4951 Definitely here at DSN. Kevin and I both practice the taxonomic arts. Craig's a mollusk man. We're all interested in evolution, ecology, and biogeography, where species are the currency of trade. Definitely here at DSN. Kevin and I both practice the taxonomic arts. Craig’s a mollusk man. We’re all interested in evolution, ecology, and biogeography, where species are the currency of trade.

]]> By: Lilian Nattel http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/naming-a-new-species-is-tricky/comment-page-1/#comment-4947 Lilian Nattel Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:12:52 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1666#comment-4947 It's nice to know that taxonomy is still alive and well. It’s nice to know that taxonomy is still alive and well.

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