Comments on: LiveBlogging Science Online ’09: Open Access http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/liveblogging-science-online-09-open-access/ All the news on the Earth's largest environment. Tue, 22 May 2012 14:59:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Kevin Zelnio http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/liveblogging-science-online-09-open-access/comment-page-1/#comment-4926 Kevin Zelnio Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:20:16 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1563#comment-4926 Ryan, you should come next time and give a social scientists perspective on how to measure science. I think it would be valuable, given your interests and work at NAS. Björn, it was actually very interesting! Don't worry about it. I just put the Dark Knight on top of my Netflix queue because of you. I also stayed up till 4am, but I certainly wasn't working on my presentation (which was also at 9am). Ryan, you should come next time and give a social scientists perspective on how to measure science. I think it would be valuable, given your interests and work at NAS.

Björn, it was actually very interesting! Don’t worry about it. I just put the Dark Knight on top of my Netflix queue because of you. I also stayed up till 4am, but I certainly wasn’t working on my presentation (which was also at 9am).

]]> By: Björn Brembs http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/liveblogging-science-online-09-open-access/comment-page-1/#comment-4921 Björn Brembs Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:27:23 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1563#comment-4921 Thanks for the mention! It was great meeting you in person, finally. I apologize for going on endlessly about graphic novels at 2am, though :-) It took me until 4am that night to get my presentation for the next morning together :-) Thanks for the mention! It was great meeting you in person, finally. I apologize for going on endlessly about graphic novels at 2am, though :-) It took me until 4am that night to get my presentation for the next morning together :-)

]]> By: Ryan Z http://deepseanews.com/2009/01/liveblogging-science-online-09-open-access/comment-page-1/#comment-4905 Ryan Z Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:33:28 +0000 http://deepseanews.com/?p=1563#comment-4905 While there are other problem with impact factor, this particular issue is not a factor. Thomson posts the impact factor by discipline. Also, it is easy to show a portfolio of journals within your own discipline and calculate the average impact factor. That being said, the true pain of IF is for those doing interdisciplinary research. Whose to say that an astrobiological article published in a biology journal (which tend to have the highest IF) is any more important that the same article published in an astronomical journal. Its even worse for those of us in social sciences where journals only cover about 40-60% of the disciplinary literature, which in turn drives down the IF of those few peer-reviewed journals that do cover the social sciences. While there are other problem with impact factor, this particular issue is not a factor. Thomson posts the impact factor by discipline. Also, it is easy to show a portfolio of journals within your own discipline and calculate the average impact factor.

That being said, the true pain of IF is for those doing interdisciplinary research. Whose to say that an astrobiological article published in a biology journal (which tend to have the highest IF) is any more important that the same article published in an astronomical journal. Its even worse for those of us in social sciences where journals only cover about 40-60% of the disciplinary literature, which in turn drives down the IF of those few peer-reviewed journals that do cover the social sciences.

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